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Do you understand now why Photoshop is faster than Python?
What don't you uREMOVEDrstand about computers that you'd like to understand?
Were you surprised at the things that a computer cannot do?

Comments? Questions?

are we going to have an exam review for the final?

Yes, absolutely. It will be cumulative, and it will have many REMOVED essay questions than in the past: On databases, on assembler language, on compilers and interpreters, on complexity, on functions, and so on. Mark Guzdial

I really liked today's lecture. I didn't think it was too complex, and it answered some questions I have had all semester!

THANK YOU! You made my day! Mark Guzdial

Question for You

I'm frustrated by replicating the lecture in questions and answers on the CoWeb from people who aren't coming to lecture. I'm considering just posting the lecture OUTLINE and no longer the lecture slides. (And perhaps making the lecture slides available a week later, or not until final exam review time.) The goal would be to raise the cost of not attending lecture, so that REMOVED people would attend lecture and thus do better at class. If people don't attend lecture these last few weeks, I fear that final exam grades will be lower than the last midterm.

At the same time, I don't want to hurt the students who are attending lecture and are using the printed slides for notes. I'm also concerned that some percentage of students still would not attend lecture, and thus, would have even fewer resources and would do even worse at the class.

I'm still open to comments on this idea. Opinions? Thanks–Mark Guzdial

Taking away th epowerpoints will hurt those of us who do attend lectures. And for those who do not attend, they are just slackers and will still not attend, even if you do the lecture outline. Why not try having an attendence sheet at the BEGINNING of class for us to sign and use that for some sort of extra credit on the final. Just an idea.

....In order to motivate people to come. Motivation works better than consequences...

This class is getting tougher by the day, and I never miss lecture, but I am so dependent on the lecture slides. I try to come home after class and run the codes from the slides you walked us through in class. I am having trouble writing code on my own as it is, but without those slides, I would really be in trouble. I understand your frustrations, but again, please don't give up on posting your powerpoint!

MOTIVATION and MOTIVATION. I agree with the above. Try to use POSITIVE rewards as a motivational tool. there's non of this at all and had it not been for the self determination and energy in some of us, many would have gone. Points are hard to come, scores are rigid, etc. use some motivations OK.

Just to add again, the class before our class on mondays and weREMOVEDsdays is larger than us, but every student attending class usually sign in on the sheets posted at the back of the auditorium, and it counts for ten points at the end of the semester. this won't hurt. removing the notes will only be unfair and hurting for the faithful ones who need it.

Giving points for attendance is forbidden in the College of Computing. It's giving credit for non-academic work. Thanks for the suggestion, though! I've tried to motivate coming to lecture by doing fun things like movies and image effects with your pictures – I'll try some REMOVED of that on future lectures. (BTW, I finally finished the "Enterprise Transporter" effect movie – it took over five hours to finish!!! If I forget, please remind me to show the movie in class tomorrow. Mark Guzdial

Maybe you should specificly give hints to people about upcoming exams, quizzes etc. in class and not have them in the notes. That further motivates students to come b/c we feel like we have an edge up on the competition - for doing something that FEW people do. So, like others were saying...its like a positive motivating tool. Personally, I think coming to class shows your desire to do well in the class and we should have some type of advantage over the other 75% of the class that doesn't come to lecture. I have attended nearly every single lecture, but I feel like I could do just as well (or poorly) on the exams b/c the material is all on the web. So, the further explanation added with extra hints (i.e. "this would likely 'wink wink' end up on your final exam) - that way, the 25% of the class feels like its worth coming to class for grade purposes.
Just my thoughts Student86

Thanks for the suggestion, Justin. I think I that kind of 'wink wink' in lecture. I also explicitly say things like, "This is the program to modify for homework X" which goes beyond lectures. We'll see if we can't increase that. Thank you! Mark Guzdial

I come to every class and I understand what you are doing, but I rely heavily on the powerpoint slides. It is impossible for us to copy down all of the code and examples because we go so fast in class and it would be a waste of time to slow down just to copy it. I use the slides to follow in class and for reference for homeworks and stuff. I understand that you are frustrated with the class, but I have noticed this frustration showing through in the way you answer some of my own questions on the coweb. There is so much information to learn that sometimes you get confused on the simple stuff or we can't find it in the notes. It is not fair to the people who are honestly trying hard in the class who have a simple quesiton to get a snappy reply. Unfortuanately this class is not a priority for some people, but please, don't take it out on the people who do care. Then you will just discourage REMOVED people. Remember that this is hard for a lot of us and some dumb questions are honest and remember that no question is a stupid question. If we need help, we need help. Maybe instead of repeating information you could simple put a link to the appropriate lecture or make a refrence to it to make us look for it.

I completely agree – I don't think any of the questions that I get in lecture are dumb or stupid! Thanks for the feedback! Mark Guzdial

Have you thought about only providing the lecture slides in class as handouts? That way you can only get the slides if you come to the class.

Have you had any TA interviews yet? I know I am interested, as are some of my friends. Please let us know! Thanks.

you could always just take attendence in class and make part of our grade

he already said he couldnt do that, read above.

I like the lecture slides. I learn best by doing it and figuring it out on my own. Since the book is incomplete (only good for the first half of the class), it's really important that I take the lecture slides and use them to figure it out and understand it for myself. I've always believed that if you can't teach it to yourself, then you really don't understand it. I appreciate the lectures; they give me insights to things I can't figure out on my own. But, I REALLY enjoy the slides.

for lab5, are we suppose to add the link to our webpage in the who's who? If so, how do you do that?

How did you create your who's who page? Same way. *name of webpage* in your Who's Who Fall 2003 page. Mark Guzdial

I created a function file in Microsoft's "REMOVEDPad". (the simple little wordprocessor on every MS operating system computer) I saved it as a ".py" file. When I opened it in JES, it had saved it as a ".py.rtf" file. Upon looking at how the file had changed, I noticed some things that looked similar to html. I know that rtf stands for Rich Text Format. So, am I correct in thinking that rtf is very much like html? It's coding, but it's not programming because it's not communicating process. I know that hotmail uses some form of it. Can you use rtf on webpages?
Student116

Correction, should "REMOVEDPad" just be a "Rich Text Formater"? Is it actually a wordprocessor?
Student116

Rebecca, EXCELLENT observations! Yes, RTF is a markup language, like HTML. But, no, Web browsers don't understand RTF. Most word-processors do, though, so that file should open correctly in REMOVED, REMOVEDPerfect, etc. Mark Guzdial

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